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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 13:39:15 GMT -5
Wait wait. So this conversation and idea was decided or at least brought up back since November? Wow. And we still can't get public acknowledgment of that idea it all had to be done behind closed doors and PM's? So this wasn't an instant idea that just got pushed through Y'all have been cooking this up for a long time as a way to get Anthony to the AFC. Wow. No wonder the NFC teams are cool with him coming over here. Y'all been trying to figure out a way to get him out of that conference this whole time. Wow. Then you guys want to act like our concerns aren't justified and we're crazy for bringing these up thought that are different then yall's original plan. When the whole time y'all had a plan/idea structured and figured out in the background.
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 13:42:54 GMT -5
I’m tired of this thread to be honest, people have strayed so far away from the original situation and proposal. We just need a solution here People have strayed away because we all know with more evidence and communication that this process has been in the works for a while now. And some GM's been in the loop and others haven't. GroupMe isn't anything official. But for official business to be discussed and handled there and then pushed here on pro boards like it's a new proposal is weak.
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 13:45:08 GMT -5
Man how are y'all going to know this conversation took place on GroupMe but not included in the information that's been placed here. How are we not supposed to be apprehensive or think deals worked in the background of that's happening? Man The NFC has been pushing this so hard and it makes so much more sense now if it's been decided since November that this was going to happen. Man this is jacked up. Y'all don't want to run a league for everybody y'all want to run a league for you and what works best for you guys. Man I don't even know what to say it is so jacked up That's how the process went.
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 13:49:13 GMT -5
Wait.... a conversation on Groupme is behind closed doors??? A conversation in itself maybe not? This particular conversation and the details that were worked out in the conversation yes wholeheartedly yes.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jan 26, 2022 13:51:51 GMT -5
The conspiracy charge is way to far guys.... lets not go down this route. Please.
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 13:52:35 GMT -5
The conspiracy charge is way to far guys.... lets not go down this route. Please. When evidence has been presented that the conspiracy is there what else are we supposed to think? If these communications would have been known public what could we say about it? But since you guys decided the fate of the league and certain GM's here back in November why even have us discuss anything because obviously it comes down to whatever you guys want.
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 13:58:45 GMT -5
I'm shook right now that you guys were going to blindly ignore the past conversations to push this narrative that you guys have wanted this whole time. I can't believe it. I always wondered but now it's officially out there. We got multiple NFC GMs working out deals with the commissioner to make their conference easier because they feel for some reason the AFC needs it. Call it whatever you want but that's creating your own rules to justify your reason.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jan 26, 2022 14:00:04 GMT -5
The conspiracy charge is way to far guys.... lets not go down this route. Please. When evidence has been presented that the conspiracy is there what else are we supposed to think? If these communications would have been known public what could we say about it? But since you guys decided the fate of the league and certain GM's here back in November why even have us discuss anything because obviously it comes down to whatever you guys want. Ricky, these are public. This was a conversation among friends. This was not conspiracy, lets stop now.
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 14:01:43 GMT -5
It all makes so much more sense. That's why Frank randomly said in a podcast months ago they would consider removing the eagles because the conversations they had in group me they all felt the eagles need to be replaced..... It's all adding up more and more now that we know the details that were talked about already.
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 14:02:54 GMT -5
When evidence has been presented that the conspiracy is there what else are we supposed to think? If these communications would have been known public what could we say about it? But since you guys decided the fate of the league and certain GM's here back in November why even have us discuss anything because obviously it comes down to whatever you guys want. Ricky, these are public. This was a conversation among friends. This was not conspiracy, lets stop now. You are misinterpreting the way I'm presenting. Is the GroupMe a public text form Yes. So you are correct in the literal sense it was public. But for you guys to discuss these ideas and then they come here and press them like it's a new thought and a new rule is wrong no matter what you try to spin it as.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jan 26, 2022 14:03:15 GMT -5
It all makes so much more sense. That's why Frank randomly said in a podcast months ago they would consider removing the eagles because the conversations they had in group me they all felt the eagles need to be replaced..... It's all adding up more and more now that we know the details that were talked about already. Stop! Your poising the well!
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 14:04:14 GMT -5
It all makes so much more sense. That's why Frank randomly said in a podcast months ago they would consider removing the eagles because the conversations they had in group me they all felt the eagles need to be replaced..... It's all adding up more and more now that we know the details that were talked about already. Stop! Your poising the well! Poisoning the well or speaking the truth that no one wants to hear about because now they're caught up in it? I'm allowed to have my perspective on this just like you guys are. Just because it's different doesn't mean I have to stop or because you don't like it
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 14:06:30 GMT -5
Man Y'all in the NFC knew this is the plan and let it ride too. Not one of you sat up and said we discussed this in the past or this is already going to be happening Y'all were just going to let us act like this was a whole process just to make it save face.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jan 26, 2022 14:08:30 GMT -5
Stop! Your poising the well! Poisoning the well or speaking the truth that no one wants to hear about because now they're caught up in it? I'm allowed to have my perspective on this just like you guys are. Just because it's different doesn't mean I have to stop or because you don't like it You are accusing conspiracy, without any merit, that is a serious personal offense. None whatsoever, an off the cuff conversation of friends discussing potential rule changes. There's nothing Ricky!
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 14:10:41 GMT -5
Poisoning the well or speaking the truth that no one wants to hear about because now they're caught up in it? I'm allowed to have my perspective on this just like you guys are. Just because it's different doesn't mean I have to stop or because you don't like it You are accusing conspiracy, without any merit, that is a serious personal offense. None whatsoever, an off the cuff conversation of friends discussing potential rule changes. There's nothing Ricky! Without any merit? There's a whole conversation you guys had about wanting this done what else do you need? If you wanted to try debating the intent of that conversation fine But to act like the conversation didn't take place or have effect on what was happening here is wrong. Because it did and it has but you guys want to act like it didn't or it doesn't matter now because it was in the past. You say off the cuff but everything you guys discuss is what's happening. Even prior to with being official it happened. So you can call it a casual conversation but would it really turn into is official league business that's being handled based off a text thread in a group me that certain GM's wanted. So weak.
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