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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Aug 1, 2019 19:02:53 GMT -5
Legacy NFL GM's,
In the process of transferring over the league from Google Docs over to MFL, we found a major problem on Google Docs concerning the Baltimore Ravens as their cap number exceeds over 21m in cap space. This problem was unknown to Nate, who runs the Ravens organization, and really to anybody else who failed to notice. The main issue being that the formula on Google was altered, as lines 3,4 and 5 were not being factored into the total cap for the Ravens organization. If my memory serves me correctly, this was a problem that existed before Nate took over the team, and as your Commish, I failed in my duty to make sure that the Google formulas were all up to date as of the start of free agency.
So, Im at a bit of a crossroads here, as a team carrying 21M in extra cap throws off the competitive balance of the league by a wide margin. I have spoke to Nate, and he assures me that he will be diligent to get his cap number down as quickly as he can, though cutting his way down to a 100M may mean him gutting his team for the current season, and may leave a sour taste for a new GM who's starting in this type of league for the first time ever. To complicate matters for the worse, potential trading partners may not be all that easy to find, as there is only a handful of teams currently with available cap space.
If there are any suggestions, I welcome all league members to chime in.
Frank
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Aug 1, 2019 19:09:27 GMT -5
For the record, I am glad we are done with Google docs, problems like this should not happen on MFL.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 0:09:22 GMT -5
The Raiders have a large cap space, maybe trades of equal players with differing salaries could occur to whittle down the deficit. Since there is no raiders owner, specifically 1 yr deals that will not affect the next owner.
Or wait until shady retires, lol.
Jets willing to take on a bit of cap for trades, depending on how fa shakes out after the docs transfer
I do not feel this is a one item fix, and will take multiple teams to work out the cap,
I would be open for moving Brady to a first year franchise tag price as well, just thoughts
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 0:13:56 GMT -5
Brady could go from 21.60 to 16.6
Saving 5 m in cap space, would need a vote from league, but I feel that is fair.
Also maybe impliment a reduction in salary for every team on one player, potentially on one year contracts. Like a 1 or 2 mil reduction. This would help the ravens owner, but also make it fair to rest of league
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Aug 2, 2019 1:28:55 GMT -5
The Raiders have a large cap space, maybe trades of equal players with differing salaries could occur to whittle down the deficit. Since there is no raiders owner, specifically 1 yr deals that will not affect the next owner. Or wait until shady retires, lol. Jets willing to take on a bit of cap for trades, depending on how fa shakes out after the docs transfer I do not feel this is a one item fix, and will take multiple teams to work out the cap, I would be open for moving Brady to a first year franchise tag price as well, just thoughts Lots of great ideas here Joe!
First off I thought about using commish powers to possibly bring in the Raiders to the mix, as they have the most cap in the league. However, Im on the fence with that, mainly because this team is ready to rock and roll again this year, even without a GM. I really get nervous about managing other teams, especially when I already have the bills that Im managing as well too. I will be finding new GM's next year for both the Raiders and the Bills. That be said, the one year deals with the Raiders organization could work swell. Something to think about indeed.
And your right, this will take multiple moves to clear 21M before its all said and done, its just a lot of money to dump at this point in the offseason.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Aug 2, 2019 1:30:17 GMT -5
Also maybe impliment a reduction in salary for every team on one player, potentially on one year contracts. Like a 1 or 2 mil reduction. This would help the ravens owner, but also make it fair to rest of league Love this idea as well! Unless someone can point out a flaw, for whcih I dont see right now, this is definitely on the table. Very fair proposition. |
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Post by Broncos GM (Kevin) on Aug 2, 2019 4:12:11 GMT -5
Ouch who pays nearly 16M for a fading RB in 18? ...that's a horrible contract. How long has that fake copy of Spence been on roster?
I always keep my own records as I've never trusted Google docs and tbh I'm struggling to see a fair way out of it. But I may be able to help
If it was my team
Waive Brady - 15.2 M
Waive Foster - 2.8M = 18M total
Play without a QB this season or trade for one. Daniel Jones is on roster whom I know BAL is high on as he drafted him @ 3
Cap raise to 105M ..(We'd have to do it sooner or later) or 1 free drop for every roster whenever they need it ..now or in the future (just keep a side thread to keep track)
Should get you there.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Aug 2, 2019 6:16:08 GMT -5
Ouch who pays nearly 16M for a fading RB in 18? ...that's a horrible contract. How long has that fake copy of Spence been on roster? I always keep my own records as I've never trusted Google docs and tbh I'm struggling to see a fair way out of it. But I may be able to help If it was my team Waive Brady - 15.2 M Waive Foster - 2.8M = 18M total Play without a QB this season or trade for one. Daniel Jones is on roster whom I know BAL is high on as he drafted him @ 3 Cap raise to 105M ..(We'd have to do it sooner or later) or 1 free drop for every roster whenever they need it ..now or in the future (just keep a side thread to keep track) Should get you there. The Google formula was checked in the spring when I first opened the 2019 season, so it happened some where along the line this offseason, and the Ravens were not the only ones affected, as the same problem happened with the Texans that we caught as well. The difference being that the Texans had the cap room to adsorb an 18M discretion.
The Shady contract is horrible, but Nate absorbed that contract from the previous GM. Asking him to cut Brady could mean him effectively throwing away the season, which he has been committed to competing this year. Combine that with the fact that the AFC North, apart from the Steelers is horrible, a Brady cut would be effectively be handing the division over to the Steelers again IMO, but I could be wrong.
One idea I have thought about, since the Google doc error was a league mistake, would be to offer the Ravens a free drop on the McCoy contract specifically.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Aug 2, 2019 6:22:13 GMT -5
Ouch who pays nearly 16M for a fading RB in 18? ...that's a horrible contract. How long has that fake copy of Spence been on roster? I always keep my own records as I've never trusted Google docs and tbh I'm struggling to see a fair way out of it. But I may be able to help If it was my team Waive Brady - 15.2 M Waive Foster - 2.8M = 18M total Play without a QB this season or trade for one. Daniel Jones is on roster whom I know BAL is high on as he drafted him @ 3 Cap raise to 105M ..(We'd have to do it sooner or later) or 1 free drop for every roster whenever they need it ..now or in the future (just keep a side thread to keep track) Should get you there. The Google formula was checked in the spring when I first opened the 2019 season, so it happened some where along the line this offseason, and the Ravens were not the only ones affected, as the same problem happened with the Texans that we caught as well. The difference being that the Texans had the cap room to adsorb an 18M discretion.
The Shady contract is horrible, but Nate absorbed that contract from the previous GM. Asking him to cut Brady could mean him effectively throwing away the season, which he has been committed to competing this year. Combine that with the fact that the AFC North, apart from the Steelers is horrible, a Brady cut would be effectively be handing the division over to the Steelers again IMO, but I could be wrong.
One idea I have thought about, since the Google doc error was a league mistake, would be to offer the Ravens a free drop on the McCoy contract specifically.
However, if by giving the Ravens a free drop on McCoy, is that effectively gifting him a competitive advantage as well? Or do we allow for it because of a league mistake?
It would be the easiest answer, and thus his dropping down to 100M would not be as painful.
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Post by Broncos GM (Kevin) on Aug 2, 2019 6:49:57 GMT -5
I know it was a bidding war that pushed McCoy up, I've checked, and nothing to do with Nate..neither was the trade that took him to Baltimore later. Thing is when I take over a team first thing I do is double check the finances and player status via a session with the search function. I'm ok with a free drop for McCoy though, only because Nate is a new member..I think he'd still ne ed to make drops to get under ..or trades. And wouldn't really have any wiggle room to add in season cap wise.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Aug 2, 2019 7:01:21 GMT -5
If as a league, we were to take the highest 1 year contract for every team in the league and shave off 2M off that contract, as one small measure to re-balance the competitive advantage of the Ravens, is there a flaw in this theory?
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Post by Ravens GM (Nate) on Aug 2, 2019 10:41:25 GMT -5
I'll be looking to make moves to get under the cap. Sorry guys. First time in a league like this, so didn't think to double check finances. I don't want to be the metaphorical patriots of this league, with an asterisk by my name, so I'm committed to do everything I can to make it work. Thanks for working with me! McCoy is a horrific contract...no idea why anyone paid that much for him lol. I kind of have to eat it as he is my only starting running back, but he could be a cut or trade candidate as well. I'm going to start wheeling and dealing.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Aug 2, 2019 11:13:44 GMT -5
I'll be looking to make moves to get under the cap. Sorry guys. First time in a league like this, so didn't think to double check finances. I don't want to be the metaphorical patriots of this league, with an asterisk by my name, so I'm committed to do everything I can to make it work. Thanks for working with me! McCoy is a horrific contract...no idea why anyone paid that much for him lol. I kind of have to eat it as he is my only starting running back, but he could be a cut or trade candidate as well. I'm going to start wheeling and dealing. Your good Nate, this is not all on you, lets just try and get you under the cap as soon as we can.
League members here are very understanding of these types of circumstances, and we'll see what we can do to lesson the blow a little.
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Post by Broncos GM (Kevin) on Aug 2, 2019 11:46:50 GMT -5
We've agreed the Mayfield/Adams trade that shaves 2 M off and gives Baltimore options without radically weakening them down the line, I doubt Brady is shiftable with that contract, only 1 yr and not many needing a QB with that sort of cap space. But one of Brady or McCoy needs to go I'd have thought if it is a free drop. Or I'd probably do both if one is getting comped.
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Post by BuccaneersGM (Greg) on Aug 2, 2019 16:54:03 GMT -5
I think we should offer Nate a free drop of his choice based on the circumstances. He can use the drop any way he sees fit to help correct his "over the cap" situation. It could be Shady, Brady or someone else. Since it was not his fault he should correct the situation the way he wants to. The free drop creates the least unfair advantage for anyone.
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