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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Nov 28, 2020 17:35:09 GMT -5
Legacy NFL GM's,
Just a reminder, that all teams, according to league rule have to put out their most competitive line-up.
"Any owner that is found to be deliberately losing (not setting most competitive lineup, not setting lineup at all) will be reviewed by the league and appropriate action will be taken."
Admittedly I may have missed a few under valued line-ups up this year, as Ive been in the midst of a change in my life and may have missed a few weeks of most competitive line-ups. If that has indeed been the case, I apologize for my failure as league commish. That being said, as we go into the final week of the season, just like to remind everyone that there is a rule on the books that the most competitive line-up has to be put into action every week, and especially as we now go into week 12. In the past, I have changed line-ups on game day when GM's have failed to make the necessary changes, but I do give GM's up until almost game time. Im not pointing the finger here at anybody, as I feel this is my fault more than anyone else. I just wanted to make the league aware that I am now monitoring the situation, and I appreciate everyone's messages and concerns.
Have a great week 12!
Frank
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Post by Colts GM (Darryl) on Nov 29, 2020 11:12:15 GMT -5
Could be me, but I don't see the point in any of this. No where in the Rules does it state that the Commish is responsible for a GM's failure to set forth their best possible line-ups week in and week out. And, as far as a "league review for appropriate action" is concerned, MFL keeps perfect records of who submitted line-ups and what line-up was submitted on any given week. So, in reality no line-ups were "missed".
I think if we're not going to consider league reviews for appropriate action when violations occur, whatever that means, perhaps we should visit a Rule Change that would make penalties mandatory, rather than discretionary. The present Rule leaves too much room for error. Further, to address or seek to correct this issue, if that's what it is, at this point is nothing more than allowing an unfair advantage to those who have not set their line-ups accordingly throughout the course of the season. Weeks 1-11 are just as important as Week 12 - as every game has the potential to affect the final pecking order, whether pertaining to playoffs or top 10 picks.
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Post by Browns GM (Dan) on Nov 29, 2020 15:42:48 GMT -5
Agreed that this needs to be checked for past weeks as every week is important, not just week 12. For instance the Vikings would've comfortably beaten the Bears in week 10 if they had started players actually playing rather than ones on a bye. However as they want to get the #1 pick they have chosen to field a significantly weaker team than they could have (and should have) done.
Things like that which alter the competitive balance of the league should be punished. If you don't have any active players to replace them with then fine, but leaving players on a bye in your lineup should be punished.
The same goes for starting clearly inferior players over studs (For example Ashton Dulin over Julio Jones or Shaquem Griffen over Lavonte David), that alters the competitive balance of the league that we want to maintain and should be punished.
I'm not sure if the penalty should be impacting their draft picks by adding a win to them when calculating where each picks are, or by stripping high picks from them, or both. Either way, this should not be accepted in a league with so many competitors.
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Nov 30, 2020 3:35:54 GMT -5
Just wanted to throw this out there. Sure it's already know but yeah.....
As the commish Frank does way more than enough for this league. Free or not. I wouldn't want to be apart of any other Dynasty league if came down to it. Legacy NFL sets the standard for other leagues to follow in my opinion. Granted I'm not in a bunch of leagues compared to some here but I'm still confident in saying that. It's not just Frank though. We got the best collective group of GM's that I can remember since being apart of dynasty.
Part of the reason I'm saying this is because I think it should be mentioned how good we got it with this league. From the commissioner to the GM's.
Having said that I wanted to give me two cents on this....
It shouldn't be the commissioners responsibility to make sure owners are maintaining rosters or putting out best possible rosters. We already made a rule change this year with the flex position on defense because last year GM's were playing a extra LB or S when it was supposed to be a DE or DT. This happened for the majority of last year by these GM's not understand or caring what the rules stated. Understandable it can get kinda confusing between multiple leagues and rules. Mistakes happen. I'm going to have some tough choices to make in the off season if I'm in too many leagues. Still at some point GM's need to accept responsibility with their rosters here. And if they aren't I can understand where a fine or docking picks would come into play.
To me not setting your best possible line up is something that should not have to be addressed by the commissioner or is a too many leagues/rules issue. GM's should already know this. It frustrates me in a sense that it even has to be talked about. Frank has mentioned he's away at times right now so if anything GM's should be tryin to do even more to help the league out if can. That could be simple as double checking your line ups before they lock or submitting your line up for future weeks ahead of time. I'm not the best GM by any means. Made my fair share of mistakes here or bending of rules to try getting that advantage. Also get life happens so not tryin to discount those things or be on a high horse here. I do check into proboards or MFL day in and day out here because I enjoy this. It's my get away from things. So I try not to take it that serious. At the same time I'm a competitor and take pride in the work I've put in for my team over the years. If GM's aren't interested enough that they are failing to hit line up minimums, going over maximums, going over cap, not setting best possible line ups deludes the real life GM experience and the standard of making this the best league out there.
The idea of having to punish GM's for not doing the normal things that are required for GM's to maintain their roster should never have to come up. Since it has though I am in support of some type of punishment. The hard part for me about a punishment in the form of picks or money is that these teams are generally neglected as it is. So hurting the GM's even more might not be best possible answer far as health of the team and league.
These GM's are willingly throwing off the competitive balance as it is so in my eyes punishment is warranted if do decide to go that route. This should be discussed more if the league decides to dock picks or fine a team just so GM's know exactly where they stand if same issues arise in the future.
What I've said here is already known by everyone. Not breaking news or a revolutionary idea. Just think GM's should not be relying on the commissioner to clean up GM's mistakes with rules or having to watch everyones roster. Frank does enough for the league as it is. It's not much to ask of GM's to maintain their rosters.
Thanks for taking the time to read all of this. Let's continue to make Legacy NFL the #1 league out there. Best of luck to all.
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Post by Broncos GM (Kevin) on Dec 1, 2020 16:05:02 GMT -5
I'm tanking in another league (Dynasty NFL GM for anyone here that plays there) but I always set my strongest line up hence I just won the division..I can't even bloody do that right.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 21:51:48 GMT -5
The last couple years during this tear down and rebuild with our Saints organization we could of very easily just not set our most competitive lineups. But damn i hate losing. I think if you don’t hate losing you shouldn’t even be in this league.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 0:11:50 GMT -5
I could have easily tanked this last game to get the 1.01 pick, but every week I put up the best lineup I can put out. Now this week I will win and go from 1.01 to 1.03 or .04. Tanking on purpose ruins the fun.
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Post by Colts GM (Darryl) on Dec 2, 2020 10:11:02 GMT -5
I could have easily tanked this last game to get the 1.01 pick, but every week I put up the best lineup I can put out. Now this week I will win and go from 1.01 to 1.03 or .04. Tanking on purpose ruins the fun. Agreed. For the most part, the top 5/6 picks were already decided. It was just a matter of determining the final order. You were in a battle for the #1 or 2 spot. You'll drop to #2.
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Post by Chiefs GM (Corey) on Dec 3, 2020 7:20:51 GMT -5
I agree there should be punishment. I always try to put the best line up in which I believe is very clear with my bench points being the lowest in the league at 165 points. I could have messed my line ups if I wanted to but I do not feel that is right. I would have loved to have a even lower draft pick but would not do this to help with the integrity of the league. I also will admit I bothers me that my pick could have been better if other owners were playing by the rules. I actually started checking teams at the end of the season to see if they were intentionally trying to tank.
I also do not believe Frank should not have to babysit adults. The teams that are doing this know who they are and they should grow up and act like an adult. Would you teach your kids to cheat.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 20:46:39 GMT -5
My bench points are high, but not for lack of putting in my best lineup. I have had 2 starting QB's all season, so my bench points are a bit skewed.
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Post by Broncos GM (Kevin) on Dec 4, 2020 5:42:13 GMT -5
I do tend to get a bit creative with starting line ups, I don't often play the line up with the best averages and sometimes gamble on a breakout. Really didn't expect to make the playoffs though so maybe would have kept Kyler and Trumaine in hindsight
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Post by Chiefs GM (Corey) on Dec 4, 2020 14:47:18 GMT -5
I'm sorry Bengals I didn't mean that as if you were doing that. I don't know who hasn't been setting their line ups to be honest. I was just saying I def was lol. I had a hard time at the beginning of the season because it wouldn't let me set me line up because I did not have a kicker but they fixed that for me
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