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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jun 1, 2022 13:51:19 GMT -5
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Post by Falcons GM (Andy) on Jun 1, 2022 15:01:52 GMT -5
Good to hear from you Frank, appreciate you still sharing your insights!
Any chance you would do a video with Jesse, to kinda kick off the draft and new season/era? It doesn't feel like we're about to draft!
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Post by Panthers GM (Jesse) on Jun 1, 2022 15:37:11 GMT -5
Couple notes as I watch:
1. The rule is 15 draft picks per team per year.. I think that's a good number personally. I have 15 picks in Anthony's league this year, any more than that really would be overkill. We should include in the rules that that 16th pick, if you own it by the time it's on the clock, is simply forfeited. You can have 50 picks for all I care as long as you only make 15 rookie selections. I think most people active enough to find themselves with 15 picks won't have issues with that rule.
2. Restructure is a funny one. I've never personally used it but I think the terms as set currently are fair. Would be curious if anyone had thoughts on that.
3. Agreed completely on 2nd extension. All it does is keep talented WRs out of free agency. I intend to follow your lead on that and strike the 2nd extension from the rules effective 2023. I think this 2022 offseason was the last one for 2nd extensions.
4. Had never even noticed that 3 week probation period, We haven't enforced that so probably fine to just get rid of that rule. We don't have that predatory trading here like i've seen in the past.
5. I can't imagine granting the sdalary relief for anything other than sudden unexpected retirement. Might want to update the language there.
6. On salary cap, that should definitely be a league decision. I think we should place that up for a vote. I personally like the restrictive salary cap but I know im probably in the minority there.
7. Everyone go check the polls and vote there, 2nd buyout sounds good to me as well.
8. Thank you for taking the time to go through these. And on Andy's suggestion I think it would be cool to do some kind of a podcast together sometime soon!
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Jun 1, 2022 15:47:44 GMT -5
Hello all,
I would like to ask about the draft pick limit rule. I like keeping it at 15, but why not a hard limit? To be honest I feel it creates an advantage for a team to collect picks and suddenly they have a bunch of extra trade asssets while they will still have their 15 to use for the draft. Now, I understand that any one of us can go and grab extra picks as well and acquire those but I just feel it creates an unnecessary advantage for the team that has those. I understand that we haven’t necessarily had this issue but if the draft limit is 15 then why not just make it hard limit? You can never own more than 15 picks?
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Post by Panthers GM (Jesse) on Jun 1, 2022 15:55:15 GMT -5
Hello all, I would like to ask about the draft pick limit rule. I like keeping it at 15, but why not a hard limit? To be honest I feel it creates an advantage for a team to collect picks and suddenly they have a bunch of extra trade asssets while they will still have their 15 to use for the draft. Now, I understand that any one of us can go and grab extra picks as well and acquire those but I just feel it creates an unnecessary advantage for the team that has those. I understand that we haven’t necessarily had this issue but if the draft limit is 15 then why not just make it hard limit? You can never own more than 15 picks? I wouldnt have an issue with a hard cap, but I know some GMs do like to flirt with that 15 number and I don't think it is a bad thing if a rebuilding team with 15 draft picks strikes a deal for 3 more, so long as those 18 are 15 by draft day. It's an advantage with serious consequences as nobody wants to forfeit a draft pick, even a 5th. I consider it a bit like roster overage..Last offseason the Jets had like 60 players that they had to cut down to 48+PS by opening day, didn't they? |
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Jun 1, 2022 16:05:27 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s a huge issue, but I just think it’s an opportunity for a team to stockpile picks and then have a bunch of trade assets while still keeping their top 15 picks. I understand any one of us can stockpile picks too and too be honest I’ve always disagreed with this policy but it’s not a huge discrepancy and I know that any team can stock up on picks. I just wanted to voice my opinion and hear myself talk haha
Thanks for listening to my complaints haha.
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Post by Eagles GM (Joe) on Jun 1, 2022 18:29:06 GMT -5
Why not just make it a penalty if you have over 15 on draft day. Instead of picking your top 15 you pick your last 15. Wouldn’t that incentivize people to stay closer to 15 and use those picks in deals and RFA? Instead of losing 1-2 5th rounders they would be losing 1st rounders. That would be enough to get my attention at least. Just a thought
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Post by Broncos GM (Kevin) on Jun 2, 2022 9:37:21 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s a huge issue, but I just think it’s an opportunity for a team to stockpile picks and then have a bunch of trade assets while still keeping their top 15 picks. I understand any one of us can stockpile picks too and too be honest I’ve always disagreed with this policy but it’s not a huge discrepancy and I know that any team can stock up on picks. I just wanted to voice my opinion and hear myself talk haha Thanks for listening to my complaints haha. I hate FA in these, the prices are well over the top with no control (I won one player here really, traded him to Frank almost immediately hardly bid at all, other leagues I skipped FA as usual. The 24 hour rule winds me up as do the prices, so best if I just avoid for the most part. (Actually got a written warning in one league for calling out snipers after a 23 hour 45 minute infuriated me)) Hence I like draft picks, it's how I build and tbh I personally can't understand why I can't pick all mine, yes I understand there a rule in place but I'll never consider it fair. Just a rule to live with But I play within the laws wherever I play and if I can't trade off any excess picks (I have 6 I think including thirds) then they go to waste and have made a bit of a mockery of the league as I probably traded something nice or ok for free basically. I spent 3 I think on RFA's tried for a couple more and that's another place where extra picks can be spent. I got McLaurin with a late first.. This is not a complaint really, just the position I come from, I know some out there love over spending over 5/6 days in FA on one player I enjoy this league like all my others and I try to get round the inadequacies in my own way which due to me being a really bad player for player trader ( I don't negotiate well, my opening bid is always the highest I'm willing to go, the recipient wonders what else he can get and that's me done) means the draft ... I'm guessing your all hating that Denver run around the turn |
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Post by Broncos GM (Kevin) on Jun 2, 2022 9:38:16 GMT -5
Why not just make it a penalty if you have over 15 on draft day. Instead of picking your top 15 you pick your last 15. Wouldn’t that incentivize people to stay closer to 15 and use those picks in deals and RFA? Instead of losing 1-2 5th rounders they would be losing 1st rounders. That would be enough to get my attention at least. Just a thought Then I say I want the players I traded to get those picks back ... |
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Post by Broncos GM (Kevin) on Jun 2, 2022 9:41:48 GMT -5
I tend to stockpile every 3 years or so, this yr in Destiny I have none, 3/4 other leagues my first pick is in the third.. Blitz and All Pro I have 4 mid to late first rounders, Other leagues I have 2 or 3 picks scattered throughout a 5 round draft. ..... Do it every year and I can see an issue I agree so maybe a 3 yr max might be the way to go.. If you just go with the basic one in every round - 5 picks - and you hit on 1 maybe 2 then if you're starting with a bad team that's gonna take years to build. Blitz is an example of a league where the rich stay rich and the poor can't get a look in
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Post by Eagles GM (Joe) on Jun 2, 2022 13:02:53 GMT -5
Why not just make it a penalty if you have over 15 on draft day. Instead of picking your top 15 you pick your last 15. Wouldn’t that incentivize people to stay closer to 15 and use those picks in deals and RFA? Instead of losing 1-2 5th rounders they would be losing 1st rounders. That would be enough to get my attention at least. Just a thought Then I say I want the players I traded to get those picks back ... Obviously this wouldn’t be something that could be implemented in this draft or I dare say even the next as those picks have begun to be traded as well. It was just a suggestion if people are actually serious on maintaining this rule and want there to be consequences |
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Post by Broncos GM (Kevin) on Jun 2, 2022 14:19:46 GMT -5
Well the consequences are we don't get to spend our full allotment, or I have to trade up or for players with those picks which I have been trying to do...
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Jun 2, 2022 18:34:00 GMT -5
Well the consequences are we don't get to spend our full allotment, or I have to trade up or for players with those picks which I have been trying to do... Just for the record, I agree that the current consequence is that a team would forfeit those picks at the time of the draft. Perhaps I’m not explaining my position well. My main issue is a team can collect as many picks as they want, then they can use those picks for RFA or trades but can’t use them to actually draft. It’s an advantage for the team that collects those picks. As I said, I understand any team can have that advantage. Truthfully it just doesn’t make sense to me. It’s not a big deal, I’m fine with whatever is decided. I also don’t think it’s been abused and am not trying to imply otherwise. This rule was brought up so I thought I would explain my thoughts |
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