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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on May 5, 2017 0:50:39 GMT -5
The money exchange aspect of this league was designed to be applicable to trades concerning player salaries, particularly with the big salaries that we imported from Spotrac when the league first started, as it was never meant to be used to buy draft picks. We had a vote on this issue this past offseason, and it looks like we're going to have to take a more serious second look next offseason, as this aspect of the league appears to be ripe for abuse. At this point in time Im leaning toward abolishing the rule, since it is a rule that is very unique in leagues like this, and there is very little precedent for me as a commish to find guidance on. Trying to rewrite the rule would be a tough job in that I would need to consider all the potential loopholes that I may not see. Unless I can get some help, with some strict guidelines on how cap exchange can be used in a manner that was intended, this may the last year.
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Post by Colts GM (Darryl) on May 5, 2017 9:44:32 GMT -5
Personally I am all for the abolishing of this rule as it is, imo, another in which not only made no sense, but in and of itself is the lone factor of being a detriment to the league. But whether or not it makes sense is not the issue. GM's who abide by the rules as written cannot violate such rules. And where there is no violation there can be no abuse.
That being said, I respectfully disagree as to the rules intent. The way the rule was written it did not (does not) forbid the trading of cap, nor did it place any type of restrictions on how such cap could be traded. If, as in the past it has been used to trade cap for players (whom can be presumed equal to picks) across the board (in which I adamantly argued against yet was met with a DOT approval of 3-0), rather than concerning player salaries, I see no difference in trading cap for picks.
Therefore, seeing that the trading of cap IS being used in a manner consistent with the original intent, a rewrite of this rule would actually include language that reflects a new intent, namely, to be applicable strictly to trades concerning player salaries. Again, I would be for the abolishing of this rule. GM's can figure out other ways to make a trade work, if they really wanted it to work.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 10:00:26 GMT -5
I totally agree with Darryl. I was strongly for the abolition of the rule, however with it remaining and with the language in the rules there is nothing wrong with teams using the cap as an equity to trade as was done in the deal between me and Oakland.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on May 5, 2017 10:37:19 GMT -5
Here is how the rule is stated:
Players MAY trade salary up to 10.0 Million a year.
How this will work:
You can only trade a maximum of 10.0 Million a year, you cannot go up and down. Once you exceed 10 Million in salary trades, that is it.
If you trade 5 million to a team and then in a different deal take in 5 million from that team that is your total of 10 million that year and your total cap would essentially be back to normal.
You cannot exceed 110 Million in cap because you can't trade more of it.
The trading of cap CANNOT change a players salary in any way.
Example: Bengals trade: Mario Williams 6 MIL (2013) 2 MIL (2014) 12 Mil (2015) UFA (2016)
Falcons Trade: Kamerion Wimbley 4 MIL (2013) 3 MIL (2014) UFA (2015) 2 Million in Cap space
This would mean the Bengals take in an additional 2 Million in cap against their roster and the Falcons clear 2 million in cap space.
This 2 million counts against both teams toward their max of 10 million for the year. So the rest of the year both teams can only trade an additional 8 Million.
While the rule was never written as clear as it should have been, judging by the example, the author of the rule clearly had in mind that the money exchange aspect of the league was intended to deal with salary absorption in specific deals that involved higher priced players. And this is the point I have tried to make in both Destiny and Legacy for several years now, and nobody seems to care because a rule with a major loophole is a great way to get the competitive advantage. NFL teams have been known for covering salaries in specific trades that are made, and that is what I believe the rule was intended to mimic. However, I not sure the NFL allows for the purchasing of draft picks, and I know for a fact it does allow for trading cap space. I have always seen it as gentleman's rule, as the lack of details was always problematic since I took the league over, and have not forcibly removed the rule precisely because I like to give league GM's as much freedom as I can. This is why I have always taken an advisory role approach to this rule, without bringing down the gauntlet. But what is written in the details of the contract is what really matters, and in regards to this rule, an open interpretation is the problem here.
Unless there is a member or two of this league that truly wants to save the cap exchange, and writes a hard specific rule to better explain and refine some of the details, it will be abolished after 2017.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jun 21, 2017 15:48:29 GMT -5
This rule will be abolished as of he 2017 trade deadline.
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