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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jan 3, 2014 1:37:33 GMT -5
"Reduce reception points from 2 per reception down to 1 point."
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jan 3, 2014 1:40:54 GMT -5
This is the argument I put up in another league about the 2 point reception scoring system:
"The problem with the 2 point catch system is that a 2 yard hitch completion is equivalent to 20 yards rushing, if I'm doing my math correctly. I think that's over compensation for a catch, and under compensation for a good RB piling up the yards late in games when a team is trying to run the clock out. There was a game this year in the Legacy League where I went up against a TE who finished with 7 rec. 82 yards and a TD for a total score of 31. My RB in that same game had 28 carries 133 yards and a TD for a total score of 26 points. I would think that the RB in that game had a better game from a fantasy perspective for accumulating an additional 51 total yards, but the receptions put the TE over the top. If you were to cut those reception down to one point each, the TE in that game would have scored a 24 versus the RB's 26, which I think is more in line from a fantasy perspective."
I would be willing to entertain other thoughts and point scoring ideas for receptions other than a 1 point system across the board, but I do believe the 2 point system is too much.
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Post by Bills GM (Commissioner) on Jan 3, 2014 12:16:22 GMT -5
I think I kinda would like to go the route of Legacy Champs, 2ppr TE, 1 WR, .5 RB. I just feel that this helps the TE position be more relevant
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jan 3, 2014 12:54:21 GMT -5
I would feel better about 1.5 TE, 1 WR, .5RB
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Post by Lions GM on Jan 3, 2014 16:35:19 GMT -5
I for one hate changing scoring in a league where you already have drafted your team.alot of teams build there team according to the scoring settings. I put more emphasis on wr in this league and not rb because of the scoring settings.I would have built my team differently if it weren't 2 pts.per rec.
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Post by Lions GM on Jan 3, 2014 16:44:13 GMT -5
also if we cut down from2 pts.per rec.maybe should cut tackles down from 2 points to 1.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jan 3, 2014 17:28:38 GMT -5
Lions, I hear you and I completely understand. If your spending big money on WR's, then a drastic change in the scoring system would be difficult. Maybe we can try a more gradual change to the rule then, and as contracts expire, team GM's have a fairer way to adjust.
2014: 1.75 WR 1.75 TE and 1.5 RB in 2014
2015: 1.50 WR 1.50 TE and 1.0 RB
2016: 1.0 WR 1.5 TE AND .50 RB
I'm open to changing defense stats as well to try and offset some issue. I just think the 2 points system is way out of whack, and for the long term viability of the league it needs to be changed. At the same time I am not interested in screwing people over who have built teams a certain way, and hopefully we can come to some kind of compromise. I'm open to all ideas.
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Post by Lions GM on Jan 4, 2014 11:04:53 GMT -5
I know I wont be on board unless tackles are included with receptions being reduced.If one is reduced,the other should be reduced.
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Post by Bills GM (Commissioner) on Jan 4, 2014 22:12:30 GMT -5
this shouldn't effect too many teams really as this change would effect every single player in the league. Tackles I do want to keep at 2 so defense is worth something…
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jan 6, 2014 12:43:45 GMT -5
How about we find some middle ground, because middle LB's are disproportionally superior in this league than all other defensive players, and it probably needs to be fixed just as much as the WR position. If we were to drop receptions and tackles both down to 1.5 points each, but then raise sacks from 3 to 4 and raise defensed passed from 1 to 1.25, then that would be a nice balance. I think defensive linemen in this league could use a boost and increasing sacks would help that position along with bringing outside linebackers up to a little more parity with middle linebackers. I think DB's in this league lag a little as well when compared to MLB, and increasing passes defensed brings them up to par a little as well.
Overall this brings WR and MLB down to more realistic numbers, and we still keep defense as a major part of this league.
Thought?
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Post by Lions GM on Jan 6, 2014 18:32:39 GMT -5
after a lot of thought I am in for whatever you 2 think.I think there should be a balance between offense and defensive players.If that means cutting down on receptions,Im all for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2014 4:25:38 GMT -5
I would feel better about 1.5 TE, 1 WR, .5RB i like this idea never seen it in any of my other leagues and can understand that it would make the TE position more relevant and definitely would like to see it on the defense side too |
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Post by Bills GM (Commissioner) on Jan 9, 2014 21:21:52 GMT -5
How about we find some middle ground, because middle LB's are disproportionally superior in this league than all other defensive players, and it probably needs to be fixed just as much as the WR position. If we were to drop receptions and tackles both down to 1.5 points each, but then raise sacks from 3 to 4 and raise defensed passed from 1 to 1.25, then that would be a nice balance. I think defensive linemen in this league could use a boost and increasing sacks would help that position along with bringing outside linebackers up to a little more parity with middle linebackers. I think DB's in this league lag a little as well when compared to MLB, and increasing passes defensed brings them up to par a little as well. Overall this brings WR and MLB down to more realistic numbers, and we still keep defense as a major part of this league. Thought? I'm digging this Frank, but maybe we should do the gradual change that you mentioned above, I think that would make it so teams aren't significantly hurt by it. We can do a gradual downgrade on the defensive side as well. |
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Jan 10, 2014 0:34:58 GMT -5
How about we find some middle ground, because middle LB's are disproportionally superior in this league than all other defensive players, and it probably needs to be fixed just as much as the WR position. If we were to drop receptions and tackles both down to 1.5 points each, but then raise sacks from 3 to 4 and raise defensed passed from 1 to 1.25, then that would be a nice balance. I think defensive linemen in this league could use a boost and increasing sacks would help that position along with bringing outside linebackers up to a little more parity with middle linebackers. I think DB's in this league lag a little as well when compared to MLB, and increasing passes defensed brings them up to par a little as well. Overall this brings WR and MLB down to more realistic numbers, and we still keep defense as a major part of this league. Thought? I'm digging this Frank, but maybe we should do the gradual change that you mentioned above, I think that would make it so teams aren't significantly hurt by it. We can do a gradual downgrade on the defensive side as well. I'm good with a gradual change. How about this... Tackles from 2 to 1.75 Receptions from 2 to 1.75 Sacks from 3 to 3.50 Passes defensed from 1 to 1.25 Thoughts? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 14:08:39 GMT -5
yeah loving the gradual change
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