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Post by Bills GM (Anthony) on Jan 26, 2022 15:20:43 GMT -5
I’ve been reading a lot
Just to squash one conspiracy and explained earlier
Without having my words minced
Why HOUSTON The two NFC rebuilding teams , cardinals and bears, wouldn’t give up team . That simple everyone .
All of this was simple . This is all really disappointing to see soo many good people thrown through the grinder
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 15:23:04 GMT -5
In that pole I voted full confidence in Frank. As I've been on record of stating many times there's no one else I'd rather have be our commissioner. Because I ask questions and try to figure things out doesn't mean I'm trying to overthrow the commissioner or his league. But the same time I feel like I have just as much right as anybody else to express concern with a rule that's being presented to benefit certain people in the league in my opinion. You support Frank but accuse him of collusion? I'm questioning the GM's in that conversation that this idea of switching was done with more intent than what was originally presented to the league.
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Jan 26, 2022 15:24:39 GMT -5
Well it was an open chat so all 22 gms on GroupMe were in the conversation. So I guess all but 10 colluded….
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Jan 26, 2022 15:25:42 GMT -5
You have put out some very strong accusations that are tough to come back from
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 15:26:34 GMT -5
Well it was an open chat so all 22 gms on GroupMe were in the conversation. So I guess all but 10 colluded…. I'm sure not all those GM's are reading every word that's posted in a chat. Why I'm saying to the GM's involved in that initial conversation.
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 15:28:28 GMT -5
You have put out some very strong accusations that are tough to come back from Lol like what?
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Jan 26, 2022 15:29:41 GMT -5
That’s what’s getting missed here, there was a whole league involved, there was no personal messages or anything. These accusations are coming out of nowhere. Frank even said let’s put it to vote in the offseason which is what we were trying to do in this thread.
Nothing was decided, Darryl is in the GroupMe chat and didn’t say anything about it either. I feel like this is unwarranted accusations that have really gone way to far and will be tough to bounce back from
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Jan 26, 2022 15:30:22 GMT -5
You have put out some very strong accusations that are tough to come back from Lol like what? Conspiracy isn’t a small accusation!!
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 15:32:25 GMT -5
Conspiracy isn’t a small accusation!! I'm questioning why a rule is wanted to be put in. No one said Frank needs to be removed. He made that post and call himself.
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Jan 26, 2022 15:43:04 GMT -5
That’s not what your questioning
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Jan 26, 2022 15:48:28 GMT -5
This sure feels like argument for argument's sake at this point. How about we strip away all the noise here? 1. No backroom deals took place trying to determine how to make the AFC more difficult. 2. Nothing is being forced on anybody here. 3. A suggestion by Anthony that he might be interested in switching teams, followed by him wanting to switch teams 3 months later is not a conspiracy 4. The whole reason for the thread and the idea of a vote is because people had objections that wanted to be heard. 5. Here we are, in this thread to offer constructive criticism to the process, when this is most likely a one-off 6. We're all here voluntarily. Nobody is paid, there's no prize money. We're here to have a good time and challenge ourselves 7. NONE of the past 2 pages here have been productive. No suggestions about how to improve the rule 8. I dont understand why anyone feels targeted. Anthony just wanted a rebuild, I dont think the division mattered then or now 9. The vote hasnt happened yet, nobody is switched yet until it's approved! Make your case instead of freaking out on everyone and 10. The Eagles are open now. Why dont one of y'all come transfer to the NFC if this grand conspiracy is locked in? There shouldn't even be a vote at this point. The situation is too cloudy and not figured out to push it through in a random vote to appease Anthony. Y'all can say whatever you want at this point but to have these discussions in the background and then try to prop up here like you're doing what's best for the league is wrong. You are concerned about what's best for the lead Y'all concerned about having a good time how you want to. I understand this is a freely and no one's being forced to stay here. But then don't try to make it seem like we all have options and choices and what's being done here. We don't. Tell us I make all the rules and if you like it stay if not you're welcome to leave because that's what's happening. This is what your questioning
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Jan 26, 2022 15:54:17 GMT -5
Conspiracy isn’t a small accusation!! I'm questioning why a rule is wanted to be put in. No one said Frank needs to be removed. He made that post and call himself. What your missing is, the NFC is being accused of conspiring here, Frank is in the NFC and also in the discussions that Darryl posted, how can he continue when he’s been implicated and accused. How can any of us continue with these accusations?
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 15:56:24 GMT -5
There shouldn't even be a vote at this point. The situation is too cloudy and not figured out to push it through in a random vote to appease Anthony. Y'all can say whatever you want at this point but to have these discussions in the background and then try to prop up here like you're doing what's best for the league is wrong. You are concerned about what's best for the lead Y'all concerned about having a good time how you want to. I understand this is a freely and no one's being forced to stay here. But then don't try to make it seem like we all have options and choices and what's being done here. We don't. Tell us I make all the rules and if you like it stay if not you're welcome to leave because that's what's happening. This is what your questioning I am in agreement that I could have definitely worded this better so I apologize for that. My intention on this post was for this scenario only. I was trying to reply to multiple different GMs at one time. I'm using voice to text which is why some of these words here and there are mixed up. I understand that generally Frank brings most things to the league and I have no problem admitting that I definitely could have worded this reply a lot better instead of a heat of a moment response. What I'm essentially trying to say is at this point how do we proceed with this rule? Because the situation is so cloudy I'm not exactly sure. I do think that this rule has been presented to favor the way the process is wanted to be done which I've stated in other threads as well. But again I am in agreement that I should have definitely worded this reply a lot better.
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Post by Titans GM (Ricky) on Jan 26, 2022 15:58:07 GMT -5
I'm questioning why a rule is wanted to be put in. No one said Frank needs to be removed. He made that post and call himself. What your missing is, the NFC is being accused of conspiring here, Frank is in the NFC and also in the discussions that Darryl posted, how can he continue when he’s been implicated and accused. How can any of us continue with these accusations? I assume we continue by deciding one what we're going to do with the rule at hand. Then we can proceed to other things after that. But to just walk away from the situation I don't think it's beneficial either.
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Jan 26, 2022 16:01:42 GMT -5
What rule? There is no rule yet, we can’t even get to the point of voting on the rule because we are all being accused of collusion. No rule has come about yet because we have strayed from calling Laura a bad gm to now half the league conspiring. This is crazy how out of control this has become. A simple swap between two gms who have been in the league for 10 years, should be a non-issue.
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