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Post by Browns GM (Dan) on Feb 1, 2022 7:50:34 GMT -5
(Previously mentioned on legacynfl.boards.net/thread/11698/second-contract-buyout but making a seperate thread for discussion) Penalty for buyouts need to much harsher for players on longer term contracts. Getting away with paying less than 100% of 1yr salary for a player with 3+ years left on the contract is pretty insane IMO. I think it should be a flat 35% per year: 1yr: 35% 2yr: 70% 3yr: 105% 4yr: 140% but would be open to reducing slightly for each additional year: 1yr: 35% (Currently 35%) 2yr: 65% (Currently 60%) 3yr: 90% (Currently 75%) 4yr: 110% (Currently 90%) |
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Post by Chiefs GM (Corey) on Mar 18, 2022 2:53:31 GMT -5
What would be the point of the buyout if it was at 35% . That would be the same as just cutting them at 35%
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Post by Browns GM (Dan) on Mar 18, 2022 5:01:00 GMT -5
The point would be to get rid of cap hits in future years, not to get a significant cap saving AND not have to pay in future years.
Either way the one up for voting is the alternative option where its a reduced amount for each subsequent year remaining.
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Post by Chiefs GM (Corey) on Mar 20, 2022 16:54:04 GMT -5
I hear what you're saying but I kind of like the idea of getting a savings because you pay a chunk up front. I think that is the reward for using the buyout more so than shedding future years being the reward. But that is my own opinion. I did the math on some contracts to see how big of a savings it really comes out to, and even with the new rule proposition is still a decent savings. The old rule the savings was pretty decent like example.... on a 5,5,5,5 contract, Waving the player you would pay 7 mil total. Old buyout rule you would pay 4.5 mil and the new rule you would pay 5.5 mil. SO I guess either way its still a good deal. I'm tossed on the vote lol kind of still like the best deal  |
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Post by Browns GM (Dan) on Mar 14, 2023 11:52:49 GMT -5
Bringing this proposal back up. Teams are getting out of really bad FA contract decisions very cheap via buyouts.
This still gives them an out just at a slightly higher price, something I think we can do given the rising cap.
I also would like to propose at least a 2nd buyout per offseason, or potentially an offseason buyout and midseason buyout (Open for weeks 5-9 or maybe available anytime after week 3?)
I'm aware that people won't like the proposal because it looks like its only negative for them, but we can't only ever approve changes which make it easier for GMs and lessen all the penalties of making a bad decision.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Mar 14, 2023 12:48:10 GMT -5
But dont we want to give some incentive to make cuts in years 3 and 4 so that some more current year money is cleared?
That's why players get cut in the NFL, so teams can clear a little cap to get under the books.
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Post by Browns GM (Dan) on Mar 14, 2023 13:36:01 GMT -5
We do give an incentive in the form of a flat 35% rate if you cut them like normal.
Buyouts are to get bad contracts off the books quickly and only carry a penalty for a single year, in doing so the team should carry a higher cap penalty.
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