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Post by Panthers GM (Jesse) on Dec 7, 2023 9:42:56 GMT -5
Good morning Legacy GMs!
Playoffs start this week for the teams who made the cut this year, but the time has come to begin looking ahead to the 2024 season!. Last year it was noted that rule changes felt like they took place too late in the offseason. Naturally with a group of owners as engaged as we are, any rule change suggestions are going to be met with passionate opinions on both sides. Based on precedent, expect some non-negotiable “health of the league” rule changes will be made after careful consideration by the league’s leadership team.
Considering the above factors, we are opening up the Rules Discussion board effective immediately. There have been many, many suggestions in the chat this year for improvements and tweaks we can make to improve this league, now is the time to state your case. Feel free to use this thread to discuss ideas, or if you have a full proposal you wish to submit, post a thread and we can provide more constructive feedback.
A few changes to expect: -LB requirements will be reduced from 3 to 2. This is pending a reversal of thinking by MFL. We will vote on what to do with the additional defensive slot. -Clarifying what actions are to be taken in cases of roster noncompliance or inactivity -Yearly Rules thread cleanup (for instance - disallowing multi year bids at the end of week 12 instead of the end of the regular season and clarifying if an RFA bid constitutes a “multi-year” bid)
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Post by Cardinals GM (Gremlin) on Dec 7, 2023 12:43:11 GMT -5
Add in a player resign on the same season with a 2 week wait period for that same owner to resign. The 2 week window should be more than enough time to stop a GM to price out other GMs only to drop and resign
This helps active rebuilding teams to use the waiver as a speculative back end roster instead of clogging the roster and missing opportunities on fringe/injury replacement players
The idea is to reward activity. These back end players can turn into draft picks that cost them nothing but attention
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Post by Falcons GM (Andy) on Dec 7, 2023 20:01:40 GMT -5
We want to encourage managers to have good depth and enough money to sign stopgaps/backups for when injuries occur. I propose a 10% salary cap increase.
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Post by Panthers GM (Jesse) on Dec 7, 2023 20:20:10 GMT -5
We want to encourage managers to have good depth and enough money to sign stopgaps/backups for when injuries occur. I propose a 10% salary cap increase. We do have a built in 5M cap Increase to 110M this off-season, and 5M every year until we reach 125M
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Post by Falcons GM (Andy) on Dec 11, 2023 16:21:19 GMT -5
Are rookie contracts too short now?
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Post by Falcons GM (Andy) on Dec 11, 2023 16:25:58 GMT -5
Further... 12M a year for a QB that you drafted is too much for the extension. We need some type of home down discount for the single contract extension we get each year, its too hard with such short contracts to keep this going smoothly. Brock Purdy signed a 4 year, $3,737,008 contract with the San Francisco 49ers in real life and their cap is much higher. Why is it even this high now in Legacy?
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Post by Falcons GM (Andy) on Dec 11, 2023 16:29:57 GMT -5
What about giving teams one offensive and one defensive contract extension each year?
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Post by Washington GM (Blaine) on Dec 11, 2023 22:20:23 GMT -5
Maybe I’m thinking of this because my QB got hurt this weekend lol but I was thinking what if there was a rule if your QB gets hurt in a game and you have the backup on your roster then the backup can be switched out if he ends up scoring more points than the starter.
My thought is if the QB gets hurt then by the end of the game the team can post to have their backup swapped out for the injured starter? I think this would encourage teams to grab their backup QB and could also help keep games competitive in the event of injury. Just a thought I had
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Post by Browns GM (Dan) on Dec 12, 2023 9:00:37 GMT -5
Further... 12M a year for a QB that you drafted is too much for the extension. We need some type of home down discount for the single contract extension we get each year, its too hard with such short contracts to keep this going smoothly. Brock Purdy signed a 4 year, $3,737,008 contract with the San Francisco 49ers in real life and their cap is much higher. Why is it even this high now in Legacy? Yeah, Mr Irrelevant Brock Purdy made sure he made some money incase he busted this year. Imagine being able to extend Mahomes, Allen, Hurts for less than 15m when the cap is 120m, thats less than 10% of the salary going to an elite QB which is much less than they earn IRL. Extending non-elite players should be a tough decision that teams need to make
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Post by Browns GM (Dan) on Dec 12, 2023 9:02:00 GMT -5
Are rookie contracts too short now? Too short as in a 5yr contract with the potential to extend and tag is too short or do you mean too cheap where guys in the late 1st round are only getting paid around 1% of the salary cap for 5 years?
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Post by Browns GM (Dan) on Dec 12, 2023 9:03:42 GMT -5
What about giving teams one offensive and one defensive contract extension each year? I think the thought behind only one extension would mean that UFA is still stocked with players. If we allow teams to extend a player on each side of the ball each year then the good teams will stay good and the weaker teams have one less way to acquire those sorts of players (A way which they would usually have an advantage in terms of cap space vs better teams who are likely close to the cap limit)
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Post by Browns GM (Dan) on Dec 12, 2023 9:08:43 GMT -5
Maybe I’m thinking of this because my QB got hurt this weekend lol but I was thinking what if there was a rule if your QB gets hurt in a game and you have the backup on your roster then the backup can be switched out if he ends up scoring more points than the starter. My thought is if the QB gets hurt then by the end of the game the team can post to have their backup swapped out for the injured starter? I think this would encourage teams to grab their backup QB and could also help keep games competitive in the event of injury. Just a thought I had Not a bad thought but why would we treat QBs different to other positions on the roster? For example if I had Chubb and Ford next year and Chubb's knee blows up on his first rush and Ford then subs in as starter why shouldn't I be able to get his points if my opponent has Watson and Flacco subs in?
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Post by Falcons GM (Andy) on Dec 12, 2023 10:47:24 GMT -5
No teams can stay good, at least from a GM and contract management perspective. We incentive the wrong things becauase you can have a good team and draft well, and it will be all for naught as the cabal of hyper active managers swoop in an take your players then do a million trades. That's the only way to build a roster here, consecutive dupings of other managers in trade.
All our regular managers lose their players to free agency after 3 years when they can't even afford the rfa price and extensions have become a trapdoor that hurt the foundational structure of teams when used.
We need to do something to keep a free league fun for people who are doing this as a hobby. The current setup is contributing to high manager turnover. Its not helping bad teams, its putting a foot on their neck in a way that the good teams can be good and good and good again but make it SEEM like the opposite. Dealing with RFA for players I drafted in 2021 and are just starting to get going in 2023 is not fun or well planned.
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Post by Falcons GM (Andy) on Dec 12, 2023 10:54:55 GMT -5
Normal people cannot depend on being there 24-7 around the clock for a week when FA opens to build an entire team each season in free agency, as the current setup has come to dictate. We need to move in some way toward "keeper/dynasty". It's not worth going through all the trouble to prepare for our draft otherwise.
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Post by Rams GM (Frank) on Dec 12, 2023 11:58:50 GMT -5
We need to raise contract prices on Rookie, RFA and Extension contracts 15% this year, since we have raised our salary cap by 15% the past 3 years.
The salary scale that we currently have is based on a presumed 100M league. While I Personally love an open cap, adjusting for inflation, that same metric needs to be applied to all league salaries or salaries are going to get out of whack.
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